The Marvster

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  Proof that Armageddon will come in 2020 or 2021.

  by berrygerry in

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  somewhat just posted a link to www.jw2016.borg (remove the b ) which is an up-and-running site for 2016 dub conventions.the borg has also registered jw2017, jw2018, jw2019, and jw2020 (all .org)however, they have not reg'd jw2021.therefore, the conclusion in the title.

  (a non-wt has reg'd jw2022.org)( jw2021.org is presently available, wink-wink).

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  who the hell could possibly believe this anymore after the many many decades of threats..

  What comes to mind is... "The boy who cried WOLF"
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  My letter to Bethel about the flood

  by Cornbread in

  1. watchtower
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  i've decided to go full public with a new username on this forum.

  it's been almost a decade since i've been out and i don't care at this point who knows.

  that being said, here's a letter that i'm mailing to bethel.

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  Devastating, simply devastating...

  Reading this has somewhat alleviated my grumpiness this morning

  Thak you for posting...
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  The Monsters the WTBTS Created

  by Coded Logic in

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  growing up, the jws at the kingdom hall taught me that perfection is the only standard via which things can ever be measured.

  "well yeah modern medicine is great - but it's pointless because they can't save everyone.

  and they can't stop people from dying.

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  This SMUG arrogance we were all indoctrinated with.... I'm now finding it pretty difficult to form relationships with 'worldly people', now that I am one myself, still burning away my 'I'm better than they next guy' attitude... so much learning to do...

  the WTSGB tries to think it and the org's members are better than anybody else.....

  so toxic, dysfunctional and anti-human...
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  Does anyone pray and if so to who?

  by duc007az in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's been years since i've prayed and the last one i prayed to was the god known as jehovah.

  just wondering.

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  Last time I prayed was about in April this year, just once... and it was to end any possible relationship I could have had with the person I was taught was called Jehovah... I said all I needed to say, all the things I had been too afriad to say over the years, and that was that... it wasn't too difficult as I hadn't prayed for a few years, and before that, most of my prayers were purely procedure and hardly heartfelt.... I had just finished reading an interesting booked called 'Firing God', and without really realising it, that's what I did in that prayer.... funnily enough the next day, I genuinly was 'worried' as if a bolt of lightning would come out of the sky, or some gruesome accident would happen to me.... AND THAT SAYS IT ALL, that's the kind of god I was taught to fear, and I thought, 'who would want to be in a relationship with a person you have to be frightened of forever?'
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  Blurring of genders

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as sometimes happens at elders meetings with the co, he has a letter from the branch to read out.

  this rarely is made available later so any policies have to be acted on from memory.

  this visit a letter was read about blurring of the genders and in particular brothers dressing in a metrosexual style - tight clothing was mentioned again.

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  This also got me thinking, that even the borg, managed to regularly highlight how the pharisees were burdening the people with infinite details, endless codes of conduct... what the society does nowadays seems very similar... the more I hear about stuff like this, the more it makes me think, the brothers cannot move, they are being squeezed from every angle.... and then completely ignoring the bigger issues as someone mentioned here... i.e. ignoring the child abuse, and supporting the flawed 1914 doctrine, but burdening brothers with exactly what not to wear, and how not to look at the opposite sex... talk about straining out the gnat and gulping down the camel...
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  Blurring of genders

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as sometimes happens at elders meetings with the co, he has a letter from the branch to read out.

  this rarely is made available later so any policies have to be acted on from memory.

  this visit a letter was read about blurring of the genders and in particular brothers dressing in a metrosexual style - tight clothing was mentioned again.

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  Sorry, have to give my 2 cents here...

  is this about what is right or wrong 'in Jehaavaah's eyes? or is it following the dictates of cultural stereotypes within a certain nation or few nations? Where I live a lot of the young guys wear tight pants, AND you can spot a lady's man and a player a mile off, because they tend to be metro-sexual (as per the definition given by data dog), those guys really look after themselves; as far as I'm aware the girls of a certain age group nowadays like their men metro-sexual... at least where I live. Anyway haven't there been periods in the last century for example where tight pants meant 'anything but' effeminate/homosexual?. I think of heavy metal musicians and rock stars who donned that type of clothing and were not partial to being surrounded by the hottest women around.... I even think back to when I was about 11 years old living in the UK and being very frightened of the still then existing National Front and skinheads... and let me tell you, they wore tight pants... those hard men were the last on earth to be viewed as effeminate...

  and what if a couple of brothers are effeminate by nature? I knew 2 of them and 'yes' they both had issues around sexuality and gender, but this was no pretense on their part.... what do they do? get surgery? it seems in order to be a male in the society you need to wear the society's latest cologne (i think it's called BO), have an enormous beer gut, and don't wash or comb your hair; there you go, the perfect alpha-male..

  By the way, if you look at how Jesus is portrayed in publications such as 'the Greatest Man' book... he is at times th epitome of metro-sexual..
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  Where have all the spiritual men gone?

  by ToesUp in

  1. social
  2. humour

  this photo was on jw-archive.. sisters are now passing microphones due to a lack of qualified brothers.

  this was in a english speaking group in slovenia .

  i feel sorry for the guy in the blue shirt!

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  And I must add that there was major hypocrisy there, because the reluctant brothers, who didn't want to run around, seemed 'indignant' that the sisters were asked to do mic duty and a couple of them actually had the 'guts' to volunteer... I expect those sisters received 'hate mail'
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  Where have all the spiritual men gone?

  by ToesUp in

  1. social
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  this photo was on jw-archive.. sisters are now passing microphones due to a lack of qualified brothers.

  this was in a english speaking group in slovenia .

  i feel sorry for the guy in the blue shirt!

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  My final congregation was a foreign language congregation. And I remember when this happened at the meeting... No one knew it was going to happen apart from the Elders obviously... what a shock... I could see ALL brothers with 'shocked' looks on their faces... it's funny because there were about 60 publishers in the congregation and enough brothers, but what I found was that there was always a struggle to get brothers to do mic duty...

  there was a schedule handed out and on the wall in the smaller back rooms where the notice board was, but brothers on sound had to constantly remind brothers it was their turn; there was great reluctance to do it... although I was shocked, and, not hiding the fact that the superiority over sisters indoctrination was deeply rooted in me, I also thought 'GOOD, that'll make them wake up',

  that particular culture is VERY male dominated and macho, wow, that must have really humiliated a lot of brothers... AND of course the 'news' went around the circuit, and into English congregations with a lot of grumbling about it, but it was probably a minor victory for the sisters.... and to top it off, the mic duty is so damn easy, the sisters proved this by doing it with their eyes shut... in other words, 'brothers you're not special'
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  I'm not so sure a bigger awakening is going to happen anymore

  by bradford in

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  2. friends

  when i left in march officially i started reading the forums here.

  i had this excitement that more people would be leaving soon because of the crazy broadcasts, the crazy "new light" that the gb was dishing out, and more recently the australian royal commission lighting up geoffrey.

  this past saturday i had an elder stop by to chat for the first time since i left.

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  Apostrate

  I took me a little while longer to realize that many just do not care what their religion teaches, one way or another.

  Amen!
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  Happy birthday to me!

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's my birthday!

  woweee!

  i'm celebrating it too!

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  Have a lovely birthday.....!